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| Because Zero May Cry are too mainstream |
Hello, AdvG|Hakujin is back to discussing something
about UMvC3 again, now I want to discuss about my newest Spider-Man team, the
team contains Spider-Man(Spider Sting)/Dante(Jam Session)/Vergil(Rapid Slash)
or I call it Spider May Cry, I already test this team against 2 player, first
is my brother AdvG|Disc-Co a.k.a Swag-Chan(Wolverine/Doom/Ammy) and second is
AdvG|Kazama Albert a.k.a Oscura(Taskmaster/Dante/Vergil), the overall result
are not really bad, even Swag-Chan can perfected me 1 match *yaoming*, so now
let’s go to the pros and cons about this team.
Pros:
Has a lot of offensive pressure, you can abuse your
Jam Session for blockstring or for incoming mixup, in some ways, you can do
ambiguous crossup with Jam Session and follow it with web throw(M or H) to do a
full combo, and of course, you can abuse the Rapid Slash assist to do some
blockstrings and sometimes is useable for incoming mixup, but has less follow
up than Jam Session IMO, this team actually has 2 point and 2 assist
character......WHAT? 2 point and 2 assist? THIS IS 3vs3 FIGHTING GAME MAN! HOW
DARE YOU........*slap* ok, what I mean this team has 2 point and 2 assist is,
this team has a character who can act as a point character and a assist
character, that character is Dante, because as a point, he can build much meter
from 1 combo, and when he act as a assist, he has a great assist either for
offensive mixup or for creating a space while doing the neutral play and one
more thing, Jam Session is one of the best assist in this game, you can
minimize some top tier characters movement like Zero, Magneto, Doom, etc.
For the overall damage, I think you can build a
great damage if you raw tag Spider-Man to Dante after doing some combo(s), you
can see the Proof of Concept video in here(created my me):
Actually, when you raw tag Spider-Man to Dante after
doing some combo(s), you can build some meters and build some damage from it,
maybe not as big as MameSpider Spidey-Doom raw tag combos, but the Spidey-Dante
raw tag combo is more consistent IMO, because you can do it in anywhere on the
screen.....yes, ANYWHERE(but you must be good in teleport bold cancel, if not
you will be screwed :v ) and if Spidey-Doom raw tag combo can only maximize
their combo if you didn’t do Spider Sting>Spider Bite before you raw tag to
Doom(so you can only finish it with Web Throw before raw tag to Doom to maximize
the damage), Spidey-Dante can maximize it, they don’t care how long the combo
before you finish it and raw tag to Dante, and you can create some extra damage
with Spidey or Vergil assist, you just call the assist>do Volcano(DP/623
M)>the Volcano and assist hits>do j.S>and do another Volcano-Beehive
then do Hyper to finish off your opponent, and if you call Vergil assist, you
can reset the ground bounce using the Sky Dance(j.qcf/236 H)>do
Beehive>then do another Volcano-Beehive and finish it with Hyper.
And I think most of you will ask me this “Why you
use Spider Sting as your Spider-Man assist, why not web ball or web swing?” why
I use Spider Sting as the assist because I think Spider Sting is a good
anti-air assist and sometimes can create a great incoming mixup with Dante,
simply you can call Spider-Man and Dante can teleport behind you and do
something like j.S or other else, and Spider Sting has a constant hitstun, so
it’s good too for do extra damage from Dante’s combo like I explain before hahaha.
Ah, one more thing, this team can do the Incoming
Ultimate Web Throw(UWT) Guard Break setup, either Dante or Vergil can do this
setup, the setups from both of Sons of Spardas are practical in real match, but
I think Vergil is easier to do than Dante, so now I will tell you how to do
that:
Dante: *le opponent comes to the ring(lol :v)* do
Instant Air Dash(IAD) j.L>land, then immediately do Devil Trigger(qcb/214
AA)>DHC to UWT>voila, free high damaging combo(if the UWT hits :v)
Vergil: *le opponent comes to the ring* do
j.L>immediately cancel it to Dimension Slash(qcf/236 AA)>DHC to
UWT>voila, free high damaging combo(if the UWT hits :v)
*note: AA is double attack button(L+M, L+H, M+H) but
I think you can press all the 3 buttons(L+M+H) too*
I think that’s all for the pros, I think all of you
know why I put Vergil in anchor lol :v
Ok now let’s go to the cons of this team.
Cons:
The overall HP of this team are low(900k,900k,850k),
so it’s too easy to ToD all of them, and I think if you cannot play Spider-Man
and/or Dante well, this team are too Dark Vergil comeback factor oriented, so
your opponent can snap back Vergil and kill him first then kill the others.
Second is, to do the high damaging for Spidey in
this team are hard, either you must raw tag to Dante or do Web Zip OTG + Jam
Session or Rapid Slash, the DHC synergy from Maximum Spider are bad, and it’s
to hard to end Spidey combo with Crawler Assault in this team, maybe you can
end it with Crawler Assault if you change Dante assist to Crystal, but I think
Jam Session is muct better for mixup and neutraling.
I think this team is kinda hard to fight against
projectile assist or projectile spammer character, so use your assist wisely,
because if you’re not, you will got Happy Birthday‘d(the opponent can hitting/comboing
your point char and one of your assist char) from your opponent
This team has some bad matchups too, except Vergil.
And the last but not least, this team doesn’t has a
great left-right mixup, it’s because Spidey can’t do left-right mixup, and
Dante-Vergil or Dante-Spidey mixup are only useable in corner, so this team is
a corner oriented team too.
So the conclusion is, if you want to play this
Spider May Cry team, you must know when you call Dante or Vergil assist, either
for neutraling or mixup or pressing, because this team are the low health team,
and yes, when in doubt, do as many things as you can when Spidey and Dante are
dead, because you have XF3 Vergil a.k.a Dark Vergil a.k.a The Best Anchor Ever,
but be careful if your opponent tries to snap back your Vergil, to solve this
case, you must know how to play Spidey and/or Dante with XF3 and no assist,
because XF3 Spidey and Dante are really scary if you can control their speed
boost, for knowing how to comeback with XF3 Spider-Man, I think you can see FRB
Mamespider vs BT Clockwork match video in here:
Overall tier for this team I think is B to B-, maybe
we can have a better tier if we change the point character to someone that
freakin broken like Zero, Mags, etc.(lol, just kidding)
I think that’s all for today, maybe next post could
be another team discussion(maybe can discuss other than Spidey team) or maybe
other character discussion or maybe the other else :v
